{"id":24818,"date":"2024-05-13T20:51:27","date_gmt":"2024-05-13T20:51:27","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/afreeurl.com\/?p=24818"},"modified":"2024-05-13T20:51:30","modified_gmt":"2024-05-13T20:51:30","slug":"why-google-cant-tell-you-about-every-ranking-drop","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/afreeurl.com\/?p=24818","title":{"rendered":"Why Google can&#8217;t tell you about every ranking drop"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><\/p>\n<p>In a recent Twitter exchange, Google Search Liaison Danny Sullivan provided insight into how the search engine handles algorithmic spam actions and ranking drops.<\/p>\n<p>The discussion was sparked by a website owner <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/Katie16282772\/status\/1790047016539591089\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">complaint<\/a> about a significant loss of traffic and the inability to request a manual review.<\/p>\n<p>Sullivan clarified that a site could be affected by algorithmic spamming or simply not ranking well due to other factors.<\/p>\n<p>He stressed that many sites that experience ranking drops mistakenly attribute it to spammy algorithmic action when that might not be the case.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I&#8217;ve looked at a lot of sites where people have complained about losing rankings and decide they have algorithmic spam action against them, but they don&#8217;t.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>by Sullivan <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/searchliaison\/status\/1790076489452630418\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">full statement<\/a> will help you understand Google&#8217;s transparency challenges.<\/p>\n<p>It also explains why the desire for manual review to override automated ratings may be misguided.<\/p>\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">Two different things.  A site could have an algorithmic spam action.  A site might not rank well because other systems that *don&#8217;t talk about spam* simply don&#8217;t see it as useful.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;ve looked at many sites where people have complained about losing rankings and decide they have a\u2026<\/p>\n<p>\u2014 Google SearchLiaison (@searchliaison) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/searchliaison\/status\/1790076489452630418?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">May 13, 2024<\/a><\/p>\n<h2>Challenges in transparency and manual intervention<\/h2>\n<p>Sullivan acknowledged the idea of \u200b\u200bproviding more transparency in Search Console, potentially notifying site owners of algorithmic actions similar to manual actions.<\/p>\n<p>However, he highlighted two key challenges:<\/p>\n<p>Revealing algorithmic indicators of spam could allow bad actors to game the system.  Algorithmic actions are not site specific and cannot be raised manually.<\/p>\n<p>Sullivan expressed sympathy for the frustration of not knowing the cause of a traffic crash and not being able to communicate with someone about it.<\/p>\n<p>However, he cautioned against the desire for manual intervention to overrule automated systems.<\/p>\n<p>Sullivan states:<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;&#8230;you don&#8217;t really want to think, &#8216;Oh, I just wish we had a manual action, that would be so much easier.'&#8221; You really don&#8217;t want your individual site to attract the attention of our spam analysts. First of all , it&#8217;s not like manual actions are somehow processed instantly.Secondly, it&#8217;s just something we know about a site in the future, especially if it says it&#8217;s changed but really hasn&#8217;t.<\/p>\n<h2>Determining the usefulness and reliability of the content<\/h2>\n<p>Beyond spam, Sullivan discussed various systems that evaluate the usefulness, usefulness and trustworthiness of content and individual sites.<\/p>\n<p>He acknowledged that these systems are imperfect and that some high-quality sites may not be recognized as well as they should be.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Some of them rank very well.  But they have moved down a bit in such small positions that the drop in traffic is noticeable.  They assume they have fundamental problems, but they really don&#8217;t, so we&#8217;ve added a whole section about it to our traffic debugging page.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Sullivan revealed ongoing discussions about providing more metrics in Search Console to help creators understand how their content is performing.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Another thing I&#8217;ve been discussing, and I&#8217;m not alone in this, is that we could do more in Search Console to show some of these indicators. This is all a similar challenge to all the things I said about spam, about not wanting to let the systems be gamed, and also how there&#8217;s no button we push that&#8217;s like \u201cactually more useful than our automated systems think\u2014sort it out better.  !\u201d  But maybe there&#8217;s a way we can find to share more, in a way that helps everyone and, along with better targeting, would help creators.&#8221;<\/p>\n<h2>Advocacy for small publishers and positive progress<\/h2>\n<p>In response to a suggestion from Brandon Saltalamacchia, founder of RetroDodo, about manually reviewing &#8220;good&#8221; sites and providing guidance, Sullivan shared his thoughts on possible solutions.<\/p>\n<p>He mentioned exploring ideas like self-declaration using structured data for small publishers and learning from that information to make positive changes.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I have some ideas that I&#8217;ve been exploring and pitching about what we could do with small publishers and self-declaration with structured data and how we could learn from that and use it in a variety of ways. Which is getting me a lot ahead of myself and the promises usual, but yes, I think and hope that there are ways to move forward in a more positive way.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Sullivan said he can&#8217;t make promises or implement changes overnight, but he expressed hope to find ways to move forward positively.<\/p>\n<p>Featured image: Tero Vesalainen\/Shutterstock<\/p>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><br \/>\n<br \/>[ad_2]<br \/>\n<br \/><a href=\"https:\/\/www.searchenginejournal.com\/why-google-cant-tell-you-about-every-ranking-drop\/516209\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Source link <\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>In a recent Twitter exchange, Google Search Liaison Danny Sullivan provided insight into how the search engine handles algorithmic spam actions and ranking drops. The discussion was sparked by a website owner complaint about a significant loss of traffic and the inability to request a manual review. Sullivan clarified that a site could be affected by algorithmic spamming or simply not ranking well due to other factors. 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